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1. Gaia Faye

   

   said on 8th January: Reply

   Wow, that New York Post review is a tad vicious, ain’t it?

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2. Splendiferous_Zeppelin

   

   said on 8th January: Reply

   I have to congratulate Stephen; he did way better than I thought he would…and I’m not just saying that, either. It was genuinely funny. If I was in his spot I would stare at the camera while crickets chirped in the background. He filled up the time really well! Don’t know how he’ll last if the strike goes on for months, but then again…he’s Stephen.

   Does anybody know if it’s against the WGA rules to use clips from previous shows, since that material was written by the writers? Will he get disciplined for that?

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3. Josh

   

   said on 8th January: Reply

   I’m a huge fan of both shows and I honestly thought Jon did better than Stephen last night.

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4. Nicki

   

   said on 8th January: Reply

   I agree with Josh. I laughed at both shows but got way more out of ADS than the Report. It was good to see Jon Stewart so passionate and the 9/11 joke was just brilliant. I hate that so many articles are blasting Stewart.

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5. hb

   

   said on 8th January: Reply

   I think they are being to hard on Jon. I’m glad he talked about the strike so much…and he WAS funny!

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6. Page

   

   said on 8th January: Reply

   I also agree. I love them both, but I really loved watching Jon talk so bluntly and unveiled about the strike as compared to Stephen. But again, both of them did a great job with what they had to work with.

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7. Alison Z

   

   said on 8th January: Reply

   I thought Stephen was great. Having both shows that night be full of vitriol would have been too much. But I like that Jon expressed frustration at both the AMPTP as well as the WGA leadership who turned down the deal to get both shows back with writers.

   What I keep wondering is why the WGA hasn’t given Jon and Stephen waivers or a special deal. I know, they don’t own their own shows. That isn’t their fault, is it? There is almost NO mainstream media coverage of the strike. TDS and TCR with writers would be able to cover the situation properly and get representatives of the WGA on the air and the message out there. If the WGA wants to get the public aware and sympathetic, they need to do more than make web videos.

   And the WGA better not get on Stephen’s case about doing the show in character! All this griping and sniping at Jay Leno for writing his own jokes makes the WGA leadership look petty. And confused, since the language in the contracts is confusing and open to interpretation. Who is going to want to join the WGA or stay a member when you can be harassed and handicapped when you find yourself in a situation like this? But what do I know, I’m not in a union.

   Our boys are caught between a rock and a hard place. I know some of you won’t be watching until the strike is over, but I will. Because these guys have gotten me through tough times in this crazy world before. And right now I need them more than ever.

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8. Lisa

   

   said on 8th January: Reply

   @Alizon Z,

   Our boys are caught between a rock and a hard place. I know some of you won’t be watching until the strike is over, but I will. Because these guys have gotten me through tough times in this crazy world before. And right now I need them more than ever.

   It’s like one mind…ditto.

   They are my therapy — I can hardly survive my beyond-sh&*ty job without them every night.

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9. Laaaura

   

   said on 8th January: Reply

   It’s interesting to see the critics being so hard on Jon. I thought he did a really great job and I liked what he had to say about the strike. He seemed pretty spot on to me, in that he seemed to deliver his lines just as he would if he were reading from a prompter and the interview seemed to be conducted in the same manner as all other interviews he’s done.

   I thought that Stephen did an incredible job last night too. Overall, I thought both shows were very funny.

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10. Snowan

    

    said on 8th January: Reply

    I don’t like angry/preachy Jon as much as fun Jon. Stephen was way more subtle last night and I enjoyed his show more. He said everything Jon did just by doing the “Word” segment, IMHO.

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11. Lisa

    

    said on 8th January: Reply

    @Gaia Faye,
    The New York Post is officially Dead to Me. I’m adding ‘em to my board right now.

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12. Erin

    

    said on 8th January: Reply

    I definitely agree that they are being WAY too hard on Jon. Stephen came off as more put together and made me laugh more, but Jon made me happier. Stephen seemed a lot more equipped to deal with the situation, but I was SO happy that Jon devoted as much time to the strike as he did, and he WAS funny. I think that what he did was close to pitch perfect for the situation. He didn’t go as far as I’d have liked to see him go during the interview, didn’t ask the questions I’d have liked to see him ask… didn’t go after the AMPTP quite as much as I’d have liked. He should have asked Seeber for advice on ending the strike. I didn’t really get any insight out of the interview, as funny as I found it.

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13. auds

    

    said on 8th January: Reply

    “Last night, the Comedy Central comics could barely hold their heads above water.” Adam Buckman, New York Post

    LOL — what a humorless clod. The poor thing needs a new job. :D

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14. Shruti

    

    said on 8th January: Reply

    For real? I thought Jon’s monologue thing was incredibly disjointed and was neither very funny nor a good explanation of the situation…

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15. auds

    

    said on 8th January: Reply

    “Grade: Stewart: B; Colbert: A,” Noel Murray, The Onion AV Club

    That’s better (though I reserve the right to quibble on the grade given Jon.) :)

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16. vigwig

    

    said on 8th January: Reply

    Ignore the NY Post, it’s a right wing tabloid run by R. Murdoch with an agenda.

    I think they both did a great job.

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17. ColbertFaninChicago

    

    said on 8th January: Reply

    In terms of preparation, are they not even able to use a freakin’ note card to cover points they want to make?

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18. laughing at nothing

    

    said on 8th January: Reply

    I watched both shows last night after the BCS game (yeah Tigers!). Although we caught the very beginning of the 11:00 (Eastern) ADS between commercials, when I watched the rerun, it didn’t begin until ~1:12AM. Where did 12 minutes disappear between 11:00PM and 1:12AM?

    I though Jon looked genuinely uncomfortable; it seemed obvious he was forced back to work. His comments throughout the show left no doubt he supported the WGA. The only slight criticism I would make of Stewart is that he needs to be careful not to become a “Sad Sack” comic. He is sharp. witty, and insightful (I don’t think it’s just the writers who make him this way), but he seemed so unhappy about the situation that it predominated his persona — hence the vicious reviews of his performance. Jon can and will do better, I’m certain.

    Stephen Colbert was quite good; then again, he is more relaxed because Jon is on before him. The minute-long opening applause was a bit much, but I figured it was a time-killer. ;D His interviews seemed a bit more curt (quickly cut short) than usual, though overall he managed well. I’m happy he had Andrew Sullivan on in support of Obama, having recently decided for myself how I will vote in the primary.

    I still feel guilty about watching at all; it’s difficult to decide — and follow through — the right thing to do.

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19. Lisa

    

    said on 8th January: Reply

    @laughing at nothing,
    I think it was obvious that Jon was still upset about not being able to make a deal with the WGA before Monday, and upset about having to return without his writers. In the audience member recap linked to above, she noted that before taping began, he seemed sort of sad about it. Hopefully, through the rest of the shows this week, he’ll be able to shake it a little bit.

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20. laughing at nothing

    

    said on 8th January: Reply

    @Lisa: I agree. I don’t know why Jon’s discomfort should have been so harshly criticized by the media. What was he supposed to do — say, “Hey, I’m unhappy about this but let’s just be funny and get on with the show”?

    Stewart has shown he feels deeply about situations that have a high scr#w factor for people who have to endure them (Iraq, Katrina, the strike, etc.). His demeanor was in keeping with his emotions and ethical sensibilities. I thought the show was good — my “observation” was just something I noticed (think “Sad Sack” and you can picture the Stewart expression, lol). I wouldn’t want him to be typecast as that “particular” kind of host/comedian in the future. He’s sharp and hilarious and has a heart. The fact that he showed his heart on the first show back should not be cause for kind of media reaming he received from some sources.

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21. Fifi

    

    said on 8th January: Reply

    Those reviews are scary. Were they watching the same shows I was?

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22. Lisa

    

    said on 9th January: Reply

    @laughing at nothing,

    “He’s sharp and hilarious and has a heart.”

    I couldn’t agree more — he understands his celebrity, and yet, he doesn’t let it get to his head, and has a great sense of right and wrong. He remembers what it was like to be “the little guy” and doesn’t take himself too seriously. These reasons, and so many more, are why I admire him so much.

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